Of Robots And Their Religion

Brian!

I’ll just say it. Robo is Jewish.

Technically.

The short version is that granting Robo American citizenship and human rights was a very controversial decision that was widely protested by certain groups, some of them religious. Robo converted to Judaism because some NYC rabbis expressed their support for him, probably due to good will (Robo is largely beloved by his fellow New Yorkers) and that the idea of a golem kind of prepared them for something like Robo anyway. It’s not that Jews are automatically super awesome and open minded while Christians are always a bunch of jerks, it’s just that it makes more sense for some religious leaders who were already sympathetic to and familiar with Robo to accept his new status than it would be for conservative Christian leaders from six states away in 1940. Robo would have been aware of how he was treated by these groups, and to kind of immaturely thumb his (nonexistent) nose at one, he joined the other.

That’s the “official” story anyway. Honestly, I just thought it’d be hilarious to have a Jewish robot.

For the record, Humanistic Judaism is probably the closest thing to his approach to the religion. He is, by no means, devout or practicing. He does manage to keep kosher, but that’s largely a result of never eating.

One might have a couple objections to this element of Robo’s life. Maybe something like 1) it’s stupid for a robot to adhere to any religion and 2) it’s stupid for a scientist robot to adhere to any religion.

To the second point, many scientists are, if not religious per se, then very spiritual people. One need look no further than Carl Sagan’s The Varieties of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search for God for proof of that. By the way, read that book. Or anything/everything by Mr. Sagan.

I don’t find the first point terribly compelling though. The idea is that men look for gods to explain the mystery of (among other things) their origins. An intelligent robot would know his origin, “Scientists built me,” so there would be no mystery, so there would be no need for religion. Does that really hold up though? There’s no mystery to my origin. I was born. I know my makers just as the intelligent robot knows its makers. I fully accept as fact and understand the biological processes that made my birth and continued life possible just as a robot would accept and understand electricity and logic gates and whatnot. But if I told someone I believe in God, he wouldn’t say, “You’re an idiot, don’t you know your parents had sex?” because, clearly, religion provides one with more than an explanation for the mysterious — a sense of belonging, the comfort of tradition, ethical guidance, etc. Those elements of religion that appeal to intelligent humans would also appeal to robots whose intelligences operate like human intelligence.

That just leaves us with the God question.

If Robo believes in God, it’s probably something closer to Einstein’s idea of God than the more traditional view: an expression of the sum total of natural laws in the universe. That said, Robo’s seen enough weird things and walked along the razor’s edge of science so many times that he’s well aware of just how little we understand about, well, everything. I don’t think it’d surprise him if there was a more traditional supreme being somewhere out there, but he’d need some fairly extraordinary evidence before he could be compelled to believe it’s there. Robo appears to be agnostic.


  • Scott!

    I feel compelled to throw my two cents in on this since its one of the few areas that you and I really butt heads about Robo.

    While it all makes sense the way you describe it here, Robo would not have a lot of the questions and superstitions that we all have, regardless of our religious background. Nor has he been trying to integrate those ideas about God and the supernatural since childhood. Instead, he got turned on and was functioning like an adult from the first minute (more or less). He would have been the first ever mature intellect in history who could look at God and religion without and bias.

    I still stand by my original argument that no rational being can take an objective look at all Man’s combined religions and not see them as laughable. Especially a rational being that escaped the brainwashing of childhood. Every religion no matter how self depricating places a level of importance on the individual that far exceeds our own importance when you look at Man and Earth on a galactic scale.

    Yet that same rational and logical being cannot rule out the possibility of a Higher Power. You just can’t disprove it. Also, that person might have no trouble with Sagan or Brownowski outlook that Man is the Universe made self-aware.

    I could ramble forever. I just think Robo would have made the leap straight to Agnosticism and skipped and formal man-made religions. I can see him being very friendly with the Jews of NYC, but not joining their religion.

    But since I got to make him 5″ taller than you wanted I’ll let you have this one. :D

  • http://www.scottwegener.com Scott W.

    I feel compelled to throw my two cents in on this since its one of the few areas that you and I really butt heads about Robo.

    While it all makes sense the way you describe it here, Robo would not have a lot of the questions and superstitions that we all have, regardless of our religious background. Nor has he been trying to integrate those ideas about God and the supernatural since childhood. Instead, he got turned on and was functioning like an adult from the first minute (more or less). He would have been the first ever mature intellect in history who could look at God and religion without and bias.

    I still stand by my original argument that no rational being can take an objective look at all Man’s combined religions and not see them as laughable. Especially a rational being that escaped the brainwashing of childhood. Every religion no matter how self depricating places a level of importance on the individual that far exceeds our own importance when you look at Man and Earth on a galactic scale.

    Yet that same rational and logical being cannot rule out the possibility of a Higher Power. You just can’t disprove it. Also, that person might have no trouble with Sagan or Brownowski outlook that Man is the Universe made self-aware.

    I could ramble forever. I just think Robo would have made the leap straight to Agnosticism and skipped and formal man-made religions. I can see him being very friendly with the Jews of NYC, but not joining their religion.

    But since I got to make him 5″ taller than you wanted I’ll let you have this one. :D

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian!

    I don’t disagree with you, really. I think he “joined” a religion more as a symbollic act than anything else. It’s almost the same line of thought that makes him put on clothes.

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian

    I don’t disagree with you, really. I think he “joined” a religion more as a symbollic act than anything else. It’s almost the same line of thought that makes him put on clothes.

  • Scott!

    He only puts on clothes because you make me draw him that way. :)

  • Scott

    He only puts on clothes because you make me draw him that way. :)

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian!

    Well, yeah, it looks cool!

    But really, the argument that he shouldn’t wear clothes because he’s a robot makes no sense because it assumes that clothes are strictly for utility which is patently false. He wears clothes for all the other reasons people wear clothes and it functions as an instantly recognizeable affirmation of his personhood. I suppose picking a religion, even if for purely symbollic reasons, works along similar lines. Toasters and animals don’t have religion, people do. It’s just another way for Robo to show (and for us to show readers) that he’s as human as anyone else.

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian

    Well, yeah, it looks cool!

    But really, the argument that he shouldn’t wear clothes because he’s a robot makes no sense because it assumes that clothes are strictly for utility which is patently false. He wears clothes for all the other reasons people wear clothes and it functions as an instantly recognizeable affirmation of his personhood. I suppose picking a religion, even if for purely symbollic reasons, works along similar lines. Toasters and animals don’t have religion, people do. It’s just another way for Robo to show (and for us to show readers) that he’s as human as anyone else.

  • Alex

    Does Robo believe that we are the only planet in the Universe that could have such life form as humans? Truly, Robo must see that humans are not the same as other creatures of Earth. Other creatures know how to survive and will protect themselves and their kind and will do what is good for them, while humans, though realizing what is good for their kind, will in most probability do the opposite. If there is no God, than according to Darwin the strongest and the most able should survive. Why do the most able and strongest of humankind sacrifice themselves for the sake of hopelessly thankless and mostly selfish (and not even the best looking) others who then have better chances to multiply creating more of the hopelessly thankless, etc..? Surely, such paradox should make Robo wonder if there is some purpose to this? It should at least make him a philosopher and carry a towel just in case the plans change… Maybe that is why he chose to be Jewish?

  • Alex

    Does Robo believe that we are the only planet in the Universe that could have such life form as humans? Truly, Robo must see that humans are not the same as other creatures of Earth. Other creatures know how to survive and will protect themselves and their kind and will do what is good for them, while humans, though realizing what is good for their kind, will in most probability do the opposite. If there is no God, than according to Darwin the strongest and the most able should survive. Why do the most able and strongest of humankind sacrifice themselves for the sake of hopelessly thankless and mostly selfish (and not even the best looking) others who then have better chances to multiply creating more of the hopelessly thankless, etc..? Surely, such paradox should make Robo wonder if there is some purpose to this? It should at least make him a philosopher and carry a towel just in case the plans change… Maybe that is why he chose to be Jewish?

  • http://www.denseminds.lupous.net Kat

    Hey Brian and Scott, a question that’s quasi-related to this.

    I love the fact that Robo wears clothes, and how it makes him more human, and so I’ve always noticed when Robo’s clothes frequently get torn up and damaged and all – so, if his clothes got completely blasted off of him, would he feel any sense of embarassment? I figure after almost 80 years of wearing clothes, he’d at least be uncomfortable to not have any on in front of a lot of people.
    Somehow I think it could lend itself to a really funny situation sometime, and the image of Robo trying to cover himself with his arms is really funny to me, too.

  • http://www.denseminds.lupous.net/ Kat

    Hey Brian and Scott, a question that’s quasi-related to this.

    I love the fact that Robo wears clothes, and how it makes him more human, and so I’ve always noticed when Robo’s clothes frequently get torn up and damaged and all – so, if his clothes got completely blasted off of him, would he feel any sense of embarassment? I figure after almost 80 years of wearing clothes, he’d at least be uncomfortable to not have any on in front of a lot of people.
    Somehow I think it could lend itself to a really funny situation sometime, and the image of Robo trying to cover himself with his arms is really funny to me, too.

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian!

    I’m absolutely sure he’d be embarrassed. He’s naked without clothes!

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian!

    I’m absolutely sure he’d be embarrassed. He’s naked without clothes!

  • Scott

    Hey, Brian, I was wondering if you could post one of your ooolllld 8-Bit Theater blog posts on this site – the one explaining why artificially intelligent robots wouldn’t want to kill their human creators. Reading this entry (and Atomic Robo in general) brings that particular post to mind.

    That said, I have no clue where it is in the archives because the comments were memorable but, of course, unconnected to the comic…

  • Scott

    Hey, Brian, I was wondering if you could post one of your ooolllld 8-Bit Theater blog posts on this site – the one explaining why artificially intelligent robots wouldn’t want to kill their human creators. Reading this entry (and Atomic Robo in general) brings that particular post to mind.

    That said, I have no clue where it is in the archives because the comments were memorable but, of course, unconnected to the comic…

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian!

    I was talking about that post just the other day. Let’s see if I can find it.

  • http://www.nuklearpower.com Brian!

    I was talking about that post just the other day. Let’s see if I can find it.

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  • PaladinPrime

    Nice article, comic heroes and faith are interesting subjects to me.

    I think the biggest problems with introducing religion in a comic setting are usually the preconceptions the general population have of that said religion. If some one has a bad experience with someone not really following the tenets Christian, Buddhist, what have you, then they may not be inclined to follow that character in fiction.

    Basically, it can be hard to balance religious faith and character development without totally alienating an audience or compromising the principals of that religion.

    I am convinced however that it CAN be done well, and be interesting for believers and nons alike.

    The BEST examples:

    Alexander Anderson from Hellsing. Crazy fanatic Catholic, but with a code of honor and a good guy who earns the protagonist’s respect. Hey, he does kill Nazi vampires for a living.

    Hellboy, average Joe, Catholic, it means something to him given his origin, but its not dwelt on constantly.

    Dr. Midnight, Christian, friends with atheist/agnostic Mr. Terrific and the two manage to be both badass, and have some interesting discussions on religion vs science etc.

  • PaladinPrime

    Nice article, comic heroes and faith are interesting subjects to me.

    I think the biggest problems with introducing religion in a comic setting are usually the preconceptions the general population have of that said religion. If some one has a bad experience with someone not really following the tenets Christian, Buddhist, what have you, then they may not be inclined to follow that character in fiction.

    Basically, it can be hard to balance religious faith and character development without totally alienating an audience or compromising the principals of that religion.

    I am convinced however that it CAN be done well, and be interesting for believers and nons alike.

    The BEST examples:

    Alexander Anderson from Hellsing. Crazy fanatic Catholic, but with a code of honor and a good guy who earns the protagonist’s respect. Hey, he does kill Nazi vampires for a living.

    Hellboy, average Joe, Catholic, it means something to him given his origin, but its not dwelt on constantly.

    Dr. Midnight, Christian, friends with atheist/agnostic Mr. Terrific and the two manage to be both badass, and have some interesting discussions on religion vs science etc.

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