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		<title>By: Brian!</title>
		<link>http://www.atomic-robo.com/2009/06/14/publishers-distributor-and-retailers/comment-page-1/#comment-7944</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s distressingly accurate.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian!</title>
		<link>http://www.atomic-robo.com/2009/06/14/publishers-distributor-and-retailers/comment-page-1/#comment-12053</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s distressingly accurate.</description>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine, if you will, that you went to the grocery store.  You say &#039;Where&#039;s the milk?&#039;  They point you to the milk section.  Only...it&#039;s not the brand of milk you want.  It&#039;s all this other milk that they know a lot of people buy.  Actually it&#039;s not even really milk; it&#039;s iron filings with a milk label that the manager never drinks, and isn&#039;t much interested in drinking.

&quot;But where&#039;s MY milk?&quot; you ask.  &quot;You know, the GOOD milk?  That&#039;s drinkable?  It&#039;s not really obscure; it&#039;s pretty popular.  The store down the street sells it and they make decent money.&quot;

&quot;Oh.&quot; says the manager.  &quot;No.  We don&#039;t have that.  We can get it, though.  You have to go through this milk catalogue and order a carton a month in advance, and then if they don&#039;t delay your milk, and if your milk&#039;s shipment amounts are great enough to warrant distribution over here, and if the stars are in the fourth house and the moon turns red on a cold night in August and you perform a chicken sacrifice before my altar and sell your soul to satan...  Yeah.  That&#039;s how you can get your milk.  Maybe.&quot;

...and then he is baffled that he does not sell a lot of milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine, if you will, that you went to the grocery store.  You say &#8216;Where&#8217;s the milk?&#8217;  They point you to the milk section.  Only&#8230;it&#8217;s not the brand of milk you want.  It&#8217;s all this other milk that they know a lot of people buy.  Actually it&#8217;s not even really milk; it&#8217;s iron filings with a milk label that the manager never drinks, and isn&#8217;t much interested in drinking.</p>
<p>&#8220;But where&#8217;s MY milk?&#8221; you ask.  &#8220;You know, the GOOD milk?  That&#8217;s drinkable?  It&#8217;s not really obscure; it&#8217;s pretty popular.  The store down the street sells it and they make decent money.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh.&#8221; says the manager.  &#8220;No.  We don&#8217;t have that.  We can get it, though.  You have to go through this milk catalogue and order a carton a month in advance, and then if they don&#8217;t delay your milk, and if your milk&#8217;s shipment amounts are great enough to warrant distribution over here, and if the stars are in the fourth house and the moon turns red on a cold night in August and you perform a chicken sacrifice before my altar and sell your soul to satan&#8230;  Yeah.  That&#8217;s how you can get your milk.  Maybe.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and then he is baffled that he does not sell a lot of milk.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.atomic-robo.com/2009/06/14/publishers-distributor-and-retailers/comment-page-1/#comment-12052</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine, if you will, that you went to the grocery store.  You say &#039;Where&#039;s the milk?&#039;  They point you to the milk section.  Only...it&#039;s not the brand of milk you want.  It&#039;s all this other milk that they know a lot of people buy.  Actually it&#039;s not even really milk; it&#039;s iron filings with a milk label that the manager never drinks, and isn&#039;t much interested in drinking.

&quot;But where&#039;s MY milk?&quot; you ask.  &quot;You know, the GOOD milk?  That&#039;s drinkable?  It&#039;s not really obscure; it&#039;s pretty popular.  The store down the street sells it and they make decent money.&quot;

&quot;Oh.&quot; says the manager.  &quot;No.  We don&#039;t have that.  We can get it, though.  You have to go through this milk catalogue and order a carton a month in advance, and then if they don&#039;t delay your milk, and if your milk&#039;s shipment amounts are great enough to warrant distribution over here, and if the stars are in the fourth house and the moon turns red on a cold night in August and you perform a chicken sacrifice before my altar and sell your soul to satan...  Yeah.  That&#039;s how you can get your milk.  Maybe.&quot;

...and then he is baffled that he does not sell a lot of milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine, if you will, that you went to the grocery store.  You say &#8216;Where&#8217;s the milk?&#8217;  They point you to the milk section.  Only&#8230;it&#8217;s not the brand of milk you want.  It&#8217;s all this other milk that they know a lot of people buy.  Actually it&#8217;s not even really milk; it&#8217;s iron filings with a milk label that the manager never drinks, and isn&#8217;t much interested in drinking.</p>
<p>&#8220;But where&#8217;s MY milk?&#8221; you ask.  &#8220;You know, the GOOD milk?  That&#8217;s drinkable?  It&#8217;s not really obscure; it&#8217;s pretty popular.  The store down the street sells it and they make decent money.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh.&#8221; says the manager.  &#8220;No.  We don&#8217;t have that.  We can get it, though.  You have to go through this milk catalogue and order a carton a month in advance, and then if they don&#8217;t delay your milk, and if your milk&#8217;s shipment amounts are great enough to warrant distribution over here, and if the stars are in the fourth house and the moon turns red on a cold night in August and you perform a chicken sacrifice before my altar and sell your soul to satan&#8230;  Yeah.  That&#8217;s how you can get your milk.  Maybe.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and then he is baffled that he does not sell a lot of milk.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shop I go to is weird when it comes to indie titles.  He stocks a mountain of them, from all sorts of publishers, but if you ask for something he doesn&#039;t already have, it&#039;s a chore to get the order right.  It took me three tries to get &lt;i&gt;PS238&lt;/i&gt; ordered regularly.  It took two for &lt;i&gt;Robo&lt;/i&gt;, and I still had to buy the trade for volume two in order to make up for the books he missed.  It finally seems to have taken, though.

The sad part is, this is the &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; shop in the area.  The other guy balked the last time I asked for a book out of the mainstream -- literally told me he couldn&#039;t get it.  I go to this new place in the next town (the shop mentioned above), and he orders it.  I don&#039;t get it consistently for a while, but I get it.  I&#039;d say half the books I get, I&#039;m the only subscriber in the shop.  They never promote anything different, unless they have a personal relationship with the creator.

I can sort of understand it from a retail side; stocking an offbeat book that&#039;s just going to sit on the shelves is a money sink; the mainstream books pay the rent.  However, that doesn&#039;t preclude building a following around a title.  Push it, then order it once you have some interest.  I keep some trades of my favorites sitting around as &quot;evangelical copies&quot; to loan out and build interest in the stuff I like.  There&#039;s no reason a shop owner can&#039;t do the same sort of thing.  Take some trades, make a &quot;library&quot;, and use it to sell more books to more readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shop I go to is weird when it comes to indie titles.  He stocks a mountain of them, from all sorts of publishers, but if you ask for something he doesn&#8217;t already have, it&#8217;s a chore to get the order right.  It took me three tries to get <i>PS238</i> ordered regularly.  It took two for <i>Robo</i>, and I still had to buy the trade for volume two in order to make up for the books he missed.  It finally seems to have taken, though.</p>
<p>The sad part is, this is the <i>good</i> shop in the area.  The other guy balked the last time I asked for a book out of the mainstream &#8212; literally told me he couldn&#8217;t get it.  I go to this new place in the next town (the shop mentioned above), and he orders it.  I don&#8217;t get it consistently for a while, but I get it.  I&#8217;d say half the books I get, I&#8217;m the only subscriber in the shop.  They never promote anything different, unless they have a personal relationship with the creator.</p>
<p>I can sort of understand it from a retail side; stocking an offbeat book that&#8217;s just going to sit on the shelves is a money sink; the mainstream books pay the rent.  However, that doesn&#8217;t preclude building a following around a title.  Push it, then order it once you have some interest.  I keep some trades of my favorites sitting around as &#8220;evangelical copies&#8221; to loan out and build interest in the stuff I like.  There&#8217;s no reason a shop owner can&#8217;t do the same sort of thing.  Take some trades, make a &#8220;library&#8221;, and use it to sell more books to more readers.</p>
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